Comments on: The Tampa-Orlando Train Will Not Work – Even for Me http://www.scottgrizzard.com/2009/the-tampa-orlando-train-will-not-work-even-for-me/ I'll have the "Healthy Turkey Club", but on white with extra bacon and extra mayo. Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:40:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Joseph http://www.scottgrizzard.com/2009/the-tampa-orlando-train-will-not-work-even-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-161 Joseph Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:46:34 +0000 http://www.scottgrizzard.com/?p=341#comment-161 Scott, While your post has brought to light some lingering issues with half-assed public transportation projects such as the central florida high-speed rail (and HART hahah), I have some issues with what you seem to be suggesting. First off, I have been a resident of Tampa for the past 28 years (born and raised). Through this time, I have seen numerous construction on the interstate and road system and although SOME of it has helped congestion, it seems like over time the old changes become less effective and the public (sometimes) literally grinds to a halt (again). So, the public is ALREADY paying out of their ass to support idiotic construction and reconstruction including maintenance on Tampa's pathetic infrastructure and spaghetti highway grid. South Tampa, New Tampa, Central Tampa, BRANDON (OMFG) -- It ALL SUCKS. And I highly disagree that continuously widening these roads will have any long-lasting relief. It simply will not.. and the waste of resources and space that widening I-75 to EIGHT LANES (from in some places four lanes) from Naples to Georgia is .. I'm sorry, just insane lol. The bottom line is, the taxes are there. The maintenance is there.. It won't be going anywhere anytime soon -- and continuing to widen and add roads will do nothing to change that, either.. while brining little to no relief in some cases. (I-4/I-275 still becomes congested despite spending all that time and money redesigning and rebuilding it, right?) The solution is, and I know that you don't like the government doing much of anything and I do agree with that premise (I consider myself, politically, a minarchist) to create and bolster an EFFICIENT public transportation system.. That means trains, buses etc that are largely on time, cheap and operate 24/7. If we don't learn from history we are doomed to repeat it... So, we should learn from the large metropolis of the world such as New York, London and Paris and figure out how we can work together to build a similar system that will work for Tampa, and ultimately, Florida. I personally would love driving to a lot in Tampa, boarding a train and trucking along @ close to 150mph to arrive in Orlando in just about 20-30 minutes versus 45-60+. Scott,

While your post has brought to light some lingering issues with half-assed public transportation projects such as the central florida high-speed rail (and HART hahah), I have some issues with what you seem to be suggesting.

First off, I have been a resident of Tampa for the past 28 years (born and raised). Through this time, I have seen numerous construction on the interstate and road system and although SOME of it has helped congestion, it seems like over time the old changes become less effective and the public (sometimes) literally grinds to a halt (again). So, the public is ALREADY paying out of their ass to support idiotic construction and reconstruction including maintenance on Tampa’s pathetic infrastructure and spaghetti highway grid. South Tampa, New Tampa, Central Tampa, BRANDON (OMFG) — It ALL SUCKS. And I highly disagree that continuously widening these roads will have any long-lasting relief. It simply will not.. and the waste of resources and space that widening I-75 to EIGHT LANES (from in some places four lanes) from Naples to Georgia is .. I’m sorry, just insane lol.

The bottom line is, the taxes are there. The maintenance is there.. It won’t be going anywhere anytime soon — and continuing to widen and add roads will do nothing to change that, either.. while brining little to no relief in some cases. (I-4/I-275 still becomes congested despite spending all that time and money redesigning and rebuilding it, right?)

The solution is, and I know that you don’t like the government doing much of anything and I do agree with that premise (I consider myself, politically, a minarchist) to create and bolster an EFFICIENT public transportation system.. That means trains, buses etc that are largely on time, cheap and operate 24/7. If we don’t learn from history we are doomed to repeat it… So, we should learn from the large metropolis of the world such as New York, London and Paris and figure out how we can work together to build a similar system that will work for Tampa, and ultimately, Florida. I personally would love driving to a lot in Tampa, boarding a train and trucking along @ close to 150mph to arrive in Orlando in just about 20-30 minutes versus 45-60+.

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